Michael Shermer and Salvador Cordova on the SciPhi Show

You did great Salvador. I thought you handled some questions especially well; your answers showed a deep humility which stood in stark contrast with the misinformed arrogance of Shermer’s assertions.

As for Shermer: ID=Creationsm since both need a force to do the creating - Laughable, Why don’t ID scientists get a lab and do experiments on bacterial flagellum?- Scott Minnich, Michael Behe has no idea how scientific conferences operate - Reallllllly? The whole thing was one ball of “I don’t really understand what ID is trying to say, but I know I hate it anyway.”

PS My favorite line of Shermer’s was when discussing Mike Gene’s front-loading hypothesis. He claims, in a nutshell, “Where’s the fossil evidence of this first organism? You can just assert things, that isn’t science.” The sweet irony of a Darwinist saying that made me break into a smile. You mean like asserting, without positive evidence and in the face of contrary theoretical considerations, that RM+NS can produce novel cell and tissue types? Or like asserting that phylogeny exists, though we can’t identify it and despite the fact that the fossil record by and large shows a different pattern (abrupt appearance, stasis, extinction)? Or how about like assuming that lots of information-loss changes (re: bacterial antibiotic resistance) will somehow add up to macroevolutionary (information gain) changes?

Yeah, gotta love the double-standards…

PS My favorite line of Shermer’s was when discussing Mike Gene’s front-loading hypothesis. He claims, in a nutshell, “Where’s the fossil evidence of this first organism? You can just assert things, that isn’t science.”

As if there is any evidence of Darwin’s first organism.

Thanks Salvador. For the record, and interview with Mike Behe is in the can, and should be out sometime in the next month.

atom,

thanks for that quote. that made me laff out loud. and plz excuse my typing with one hand while eating.

“You can just assert things, that isn’t science” — michael shermer

“You are articulate, calm, cool, collected, well informed, thoughtful, considerate, and quick on your feet”

Actually he says umm a lot I just cut all those out of the interview. Of course I say umm a lot as well, as did Michael Shermer. I try to cut them all out

BTW, I hope everybody enjoyed the interview and if anybody else with appropriate qualifications would like to come on the show for an interview on this topic of anything show related I’d certianly be interested to hear from you.

Sal, when the Intelligent Designer (there is a sign “that” in the middle of his name), said “Love me with all of your Heart, Soul, and Mind.” he could have meant, and I think he did, “Love me from the top of your head to the bottom of your feet.” ( beginning, end, and everything between, middle )

If you click my name (url) you’ll find the first story is about the Intelligent Designer’s first commandment.

Since I have no say in what topics are introduced here, and that’s OK, you’ll
find most of my posts on the “Off Topic” cutting room floor, your creation, and some are
addressed to you.

Blessings

Zero

Hi guys,

I have some fun with Shermer here.

salvador: it has been my distinct impression that you consistently go out of your way in terms of courtesy toward participants, so if I were you, I would relax about “getting better” at this! Cool idea about the cutting room floor, though.
Comment by tinabrewer — August 18, 2006 @ 2:25 pm
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Blessings

Zero